demo author:David Patton email:david.patton@btinternet.com URL:{mine}http://www.btinternet.com/~david.patton {my clan's}http://freespace.virgin.net/toby.a/brit.html Quake nickname:[bk]Killer length of demo:about 1min 30 description:this just shows how you can get out of the lava on DM4.. Credit:JohnK of Schindler's Deathmatch Page(http://www.planetquake.com/deathmatch/) - i learnt most of the things from his demos. Creator of Film-at-11 ( demo editor i used )